strawberrie24497 reviewed Third
on Jul 30, 2005 05:12 pm
I loved it. I've read each installment faithfully, and although I must say that they are a bit farfetched that you support your theories 100%. The only problem that I had with this one is that you sort of made my darling Sevvie out to be a bad guy. Which he isn't.
mycenae (on lj) reviewed Third
on Jul 27, 2005 04:04 pm
When I first started this essay I thought, "Isn't it counterintuitive to argue a possible D/G future by saying that Draco dosed Harry to be in love with Ginny?" But then of course it all made sense in the end. ^.^
I agree that there was A LOT about love potions in HBP, but I'm not entirely convinced it was all meant to set up the reveal that Harry had been given one. For one thing it seems odd that it would not come to light at the essential end of that plot- the end of Harry and Ginny's relationship. I have to say that when I read through HBP, I accepted Ron's accidental ingesting of the potion to be the culmination of all JKR's mentions.
I guess my main counterargument would be that I don't see any logical reason for JKR to continue hiding a Draco-doses-Harry subplot beyond the end of this book. Certainly with Draco gone from Hogwarts there would be no way for that plot to continue (from a logistical DE standpoint). Aside from affecting the future of H/G or D/G, I'm not sure what significance a love potion plot could have for the main plotline in Book 7 and thus what the justification for continuing to conceal it would be.
In your essay you concede that the H/G in HBP could be meant to only metaphorically seem like the effects of a love potion, and I think that's more likely as well as a fairly astute analysis. Their relationship certainly seems unrelated to the powerful, evil-defeating love that Dumbledore claims Harry possesses.
Now I'm going to completely leave behind my point and add a few comments regarding the train compartment scene. I noticed you ascribed Draco's reticence to discuss Ginny to Pansy's presence, however, I think JKR makes it pretty clear that Draco realizes Harry is there from the start. ("...for one horrible moment [Harry] thought he saw Malfoy's eyes follow his trainer as it whipped up out of sight." 149) And then he makes sure he's the last one out of the compartment and goes right to petrifying Harry. Thus it seems likely that if he is guarding his words from anyone, it's from Harry. Certainly his expressing interest in Ginny would stick in Harry's mind, which could be... inconvenient if he did have love potion plots afoot. This is not to say that he would not also want to hide such plans from Pansy as well, just that Harry would be more important.
Even if Draco doesn’t immediately know it’s Harry who’s spying, the fact that he’s aware of someone there makes what he does and doesn’t say all the more interesting, just in general. Why does he drop hints about his doing a job for Voldemort? Harry’s descriptions convey that he feels Draco is performing for the Slytherins (“forced out a…laugh”, “yawned ostentatiously”, “clearly relishing the effect he had”), but is it possible that Draco is also performing for Harry? What purpose does raising suspicions about himself serve?
What I find interesting about this scene is that it’s not all just childish bragging on Draco’s part. The last thing he says about (possibly) working for Voldemort is, “‘Maybe the job he wants me to do isn’t something that you need to be qualified for.’” Considering that his task does require a fair amount of ingenuity and skill, this statement seems a bit odd. Of course this requires a more detailed analysis of what he means by “qualified”, but I do find it interesting that he not only mentions the existence of his task but also expresses doubt about it when he realizes an outsider is listening. It seems to suggest that even at the beginning of the year, he’s not 100% committed to the ideal of evil.
Anyway, that wandered waaaaaay off-track. I do enjoy your essays very much! (And as you can see they inspire me to take off on my own analytical tangents.) I look forward to the next one!
Anonymous reviewed Third
on Jul 23, 2005 05:57 pm
"It’s very hard to avoid the conclusion that if Draco really couldn’t have cared less about Ginny, he would have answered Pansy’s questions carelessly, which is what Blaise did. The extreme care that Draco took points, in itself, so something more going on. We aren’t ever told in HBP exactly what this is, of course, but the most important thing about this scene is that Draco seems to be hiding a great deal when it comes to what he thinks about Ginny."
-I don't really think that the scenario in the train compartment is significant, except when it comes to possibly foreshadowing the H/G for HBP. It is just a scene that shows Pansy’s possessiveness in my opinion. I truly think that Draco at this moment doesn't really care about Ginny at all... except possibly for her looks. Just because he's not commenting on her doesn't mean he's hiding something. He just may have different methods of action than Blaise, plus he may not even want to justify her statements by adding his own commentary.
I do support D/G... but I really think that this scene is not good evidence for D/G in the future. I hope you will understand my differing opinion.
krista reviewed Third
on Jul 23, 2005 11:13 am
it's funny how everything had to boil down to draco malfoy, i guess it is because you are a d/g shipper so everything had to point back to him...i think jkr has very specific ideas and reasons as to why the h/g ship came about in hbp, it's official now that it's cannon, didn't jkr once say that the problem with the people rooting for a d/g ship is that because they like tom felton the actor and not really draco malfoy...draco malfoy is an evil, smarmy bastard, if he wasn't then she'd have ensured to leave us clues to a future d/g ship. but since she didn't be content that at least in the eyes of harry, draco malfoy is still somewhat redeemable.
Sarah reviewed Third
on Jul 22, 2005 10:00 pm
As a "militant" D/G shipper, this essay did comfort me a lot, especially since I believe that the H/G relationship did come on extremely fast. I mean, what did you think of that whole thing about Ginny suddenly telling him that she had always had feelings for Harry? It seemed to me a little too convienent. Maybe trying to cover something else?
Your revelations about the Draco-train ride does make good sense now that I think back on it. I remember being a little confused myself on why D. didn't rant on Ginny like he does to all the rest of the Weasley family. He is incredibly secretive even though he has his weak moments (the crying scene w/ Myrtle), so it's a good bet he could hide her just like you said.
Anyway, can't wait to hear what else you've got next. Anything might seem a bit farfetched but remember that even though you didn't get the HBP, you nailed the "pureblood? maybe not..." aspect of it. ^_^
music_of_the_night reviewed Third
on Jul 22, 2005 07:35 pm
Ehh... Like Tracey said, a bit farfetched, but I did enjoy you're theory about the train and Draco's reaction. I was thinking that myself, so it's good to know that I'm not the only one thinking that (my friend won't talk to me about D/G cuz' she's a die hard H/Hr fan and so she hates Harry Potter and JKR right now). But as for the love potion, I don't know if that's exactly what happened. But then again, JKR left the ending of HBP soooo wide open, that I guess anything could happen.
Tracey reviewed Third
on Jul 22, 2005 03:15 pm
Wow! VERY interesting theory. Tad farfetched I must admit, but awesome nonetheless. I (like LOTS of other HP fans) also felt that the whole H/G deal was WAAAAYYY too sudden. I dunno if Draco was behind it, but the whole explanation of Draco keeping silent during the Ginny discussion on the train was like a whole new revelation to me! You're definitely right, if he felt nothing towards Ginny he would've had the perfect chance to bash her, like Blaise did, and also to appease Pansy, but he didn't! We don't get to hear anything about his expressions either, so I guess he must've purposefully tried to show no emotion of something...definitely something that I, as a D/G shipper, find comforting!!! :) Thanks for the great essay!
imelda reviewed Single
on Jul 15, 2005 10:01 am
Oops. In that review I wrote--I said 'pretty much everything I don't mention, I disagree with.' I mean, of course, that I AGREE.
Morikumo reviewed Single
on Jul 12, 2005 05:27 am
Thank God someone has finally given some more spotlight to the pope theory. My prediction has been sealed since one of my forum buddies stumbled across it doing some research on Popes, and my fingers have been crossed. Now I'm just waiting for it to come true- otherwise I'm screwed (lmao) from all my Pope Lucius ranting. O__o That's why I was so excited to see the theory arise within the essay- thank you! :D
Morikumo reviewed Single
on Jul 12, 2005 05:09 am
Wow. You've pretty much taken all suspicions/desperate hopes I've been facing in the past few months about Draco and his connection to the HBP, and solidified it into an actual, concrete study of the evidence thus mentioned in canon. And you made D/G seem not as far out of reach. I commend you. Kudos. ^__^
Dang, girl. I'm glad you've got a good analytical mind...I would never have looked to the albino ferret incident much farther than an interesting plot point for possible Animagus-episodes, let alone gone into the depth of them and discover Da Vinci's use of them and the white ferret's history.
Claps for you...awesome essay. ^-^
on Jul 12, 2005 01:59 am
Very very interesting. This has given me quite a bit to think about, that's for sure. I was trolling around on JKR's site, actually, and I saw something that made me think of your argument re: whether or not Draco's a pureblood or not...."Don't forget that, as Sirius revealed in 'Order of the Phoenix', none of these families is really pure - in other words, they merely cross Muggles and Squibs off the family tree and pretend that they didn't exist." While the whole "who is the HBP?" has been the million dollar question ever since we learned the title, this essay combined with what she's said on her site have given me some pretty good reasons to believe that Draco is at least a possibility, whereas before I would have discounted it completely (I still have a nagging feeling it may be Hagrid). In any case, you've given me a lot of things to look for and attempt to explore more deeply on my next read-through of the books!
Annaleah/Salsasweetie1106 reviewed Single
on Jul 11, 2005 05:30 pm
Wonderful. I really hope your right, and well frankly your facts are so good, and theories very well supported, I think you are right. Great job! Can't wait for the new book, and the new essay!
Rose reviewed Single
on Jul 11, 2005 02:06 am
Wow, that was really something. Probably the best essay about things to come that I've ever read. Each idea was really well explained and I was especially interested in Ron's predictions. I'd never even considered that to be a possiblity, but now I do! And just for the record, I will bash my head on the floor if anything happens between Harry and Ginny. Argh.
Cancertopia reviewed Single
on Jul 10, 2005 10:59 am
"but in a short time, presumably when Valerian was made emperor, he(Lucius) was allowed to return to his flock"
Hmmm... now that was an intriguingly worded phrase... also, Valerian/Voldemort? It could happen! Once again, great job, and I love how much thought you put into this kind of thing.
The Penumbra reviewed Single
on Jul 09, 2005 11:49 pm
I'm really impressed; it's good to read an essay like this that puts forward theories and sustains them with evidence. Quite frankly, much as I hope Draco will be the HBP, I don't think it will happen - JK Rowling likes to surprise people and I think she'll go for a character we haven't seen much of, like Theodore Nott. The Malfoys are probably instrumental in the plot though. (Mind you, I still keep my fingers crossed for it to be Draco)
I found interesting your theories on why Ron has the gift of prophecy - I never even saw all those links; still i think that you did over analyse a bit. Yet, you hit on some other things that have been bothering me for a while - such as why Draco remained at school at Christmas time in CoS, and if Snape wanted to find out if Harry was a Parseltongue in D-H duel. About Draco/Ginny, who knows? Guinivere - married to king Arthur, but loves Lancelot. just a thought...It would be interesting to compare your points with what actually happens... Great job with this essay though!!! :) Sorry for this being so long!
nightbluesprite reviewed Single
on Jul 09, 2005 10:51 pm
Good points, especially how Draco loses everything so therefore might not be a pureblood. Excellent reasoning!
Pat reviewed Single
on Jul 09, 2005 07:51 pm
This essay is going to have me thinking all night - great job!
In regards to the Malfoys not being related to anyone else in the books, though - the Black family tree has Lucius and Narcissa linked by a "double line of gold embroidery". In genealogies, a double line indicates a marriage between relatives. So if the Malfoys aren't purebloods, they've been hiding it well enough to fool the Blacks at least twice.
Extinguished Fire, Melted Ice reviewed Single
on Jul 09, 2005 06:08 pm
There were a lot of things here that were well thought-out. I liked a few of your theories quite a bit, but I strongly believe that you let your imagination run wild with plenty of this.
Especially your little 'Draco/Ginny' ideas. They are a bit too far-fetched and there is no way that those two would ever become an item or even something similar.
And the "hungry expression" in Umbridge's office was directed to the fat toad of a Defense teacher, not Harry. Otherwise it would have given away the fact that Harry and Draco are potentially soul-mates. Jo would not make things that easy. And she obviously can't include this fact in one of the novels.
But alas, some people can see that Draco and Harry have a very special connection.
Obviously you're not one of them.
Anime10473 reviewed Single
on Jul 09, 2005 01:32 pm
I loved both chapters, they were both good. I had a review for the first chap. but then I realized their was a second chap. so I'll do it here.....
This is what I typed down and saved when I was reading the part with the quote "You're dead, Potter" --
"I think that in CoS we also begin to see the theme of twinning between Draco and Tom Riddle. There are parallels drawn constantly between Draco and Tom. Thomas is the Greek form of the Aramaic name Te'oma which meant "twin". Suggesting twinlike or doppelganger possibilities for Tom Riddle. Thomas also the name of the doubting disciple, and doubting is a form of bad faith—possible link to Malfoys?
And there is a very curious fact about CoS and OotP that nobody, to the best of my knowledge, has picked up yet. Only two characters are EVER described as having a “hungry” appearance when they look at Harry, or of staring at him “hungrily.” Tom Riddle in CoS, and Draco in OotP, in Umbridge’s office. AND… in the CoS, Tom tells Harry, “You’re dead, Potter.” Look at pg. 851 of OotP… Draco says “You’re dead, Potter.” The only two times this phrase is used, and the only two characters that use it. "
1) If "You're dead, Potter" was only said 'twice' - Once by Tom R. (CoS), and once by Draco M. (OotP) - then that phrase must have an importance, because in the CoS movie, 'Draco' says "You're dead, Potter" ( I can't remember if Tom said it as well in the movie) And if it was only said twice out of all the 'books' and was said very early on in the 'movie' [a common theme(if that's the word for it) in the movieverse-Ron/Herm relations, Draco's issues (clepto), etc] '(CoS Movie-- hint hint) (which JK had a say in), then it really IS a probable forshadowing that Draco will 'be' like Tom, will 'be' his twin. So what I'm trying to say is that the phrase 'You're dead, Potter" is important enough for JK to have it said by Draco very early on in the movie series. Because it's obviously important for Draco to say that phrase in both book (OotP) and movie (CoS). Forgive me if this is confusing.
2) Another thing if Draco is becoming like Tom in OotP then it's safe to assume that book 6 will be his turning point. At age 16 Tom Riddle made his choice and put his memory in a diary, later on he became Voldemort. So at age 16, Draco will (I presume) make a choice that will make him fully become Toms 'twin', and later on Harry's 'real' enemy. ( I wonder if he'll do a Tom and put a part of himself in a diary or somthing as a backup) .......Sorry I just finished reading the essay and I realize you kinda mentioned this but since I wrote it I mind as well leave it.
I'm just sort of adding stuff that I remembered and thought of when I read that certain part. So take as you will. If it's crap it's crap, I don't care, it just made me think of the Dual Scene in CoS movie and what he had said.
Any way, I loved all the Prophetic!Ron quotes, and the royalty thing is very interesting. :) --
Yeah, so all this was meant for the first chap. and the second chap was very good, especially the end :) Oh, I read the thing about the Saints before. It was on Cassandra Claire's Livejournal, it was for her fanfic. Draco Veritas, but anyway I forgot about it until I read it again here, thanks for reminding me and all the little tid bits.
Name: Alexandria Malfoy
on Jul 09, 2005 10:13 am
Anise, you continue to amaze me. To tell you the truth, I did notice the part of CoS when Draco picks up the book, but since it's been so long since I read the book, it was only after I read the first part that I went back and found the part. I like Snape explaination and the Lucius explaination too because they could make sense. And the whole Catholic Church thing with Lucius and Cornelius was a bit shocking as well. There are just way too many clues in HP that link to events in history. It's a tad freaky if you ask me. Now as to Creamtea's theory, I am patiently waiting for that one because if it's as good as you say, I will not rest until I read her theory with HBP in my hands. Oh and your responce to the FA thread was very funny. The Kama Sutra thing touched me on a personal level because it reminded me of an inside joke I have, so I just loved it. But overall, another excellent job putting out your theories about the HBP, hopefully at least one (if not all) will somehow be included in the book. xoxox
TurningLeft reviewed Single
on Jul 08, 2005 11:38 pm
The second chapter cleared up a few things. I would LOVE for your theory to be true (Draco kicks ass!) and I also thought that description might be Albeforth Dumbledore. Also, I was looking at the full cover for the UK edition and thought that the watery place could be in the Chamber of Secrets. That would make more of a link between HBP and CoS. Also, The Chamber is under the lake and has yet to be explored further. I find it hard to believe that Dumbledore could (or would) destroy the chamber of Salazar Slytherin. What do you think?
-TurningLeft (who is also desperatly awaiting ch. 21 of JotH)
BellonaBlack reviewed Single
on Jul 08, 2005 08:34 pm
OH!! How excitingly brilliant this essay is, you have me convinced. Beyond convinced actually. I'm much more excited about HBP.
jessica k malfoy reviewed Single
on Jul 08, 2005 05:38 pm
have i ever told you i adore you? probably. i even sent this to my 18 year old brother last night to prove how important HP & d/g was. i love your theories & i am hoping that draco plays an important role in 6. i did just see a new crop of spoilers jump all over my LJ FList about 10 minutes ago & some of them had to do with draco. i'm dying with anticipation.
Talia reviewed Single
on Jul 08, 2005 03:34 pm
Oh, wow - this was great. I was a bit dubious at first to read the second part of this essay, but when I did, I was so glad. You see, I could have sworn that JKR confirmed that that paragraph she released was describing the HBP. But I was mistaken, and when I read that it was just a rumour, I got so excited I started to shriek (earning odd sideways glances from my mom). My best friend and I want Draco to be HBP so bad, and we try not to confuse Canon!Draco with Fanon!Draco. My friend is convinced that Draco is part veela.....but *cough* getting off topic, um, great essay. My jaw got progressively lower and lower with astonishment as I read through the second part. I was very impressed at how thorough you were with this. Good job!
Name: Selina Kyle
on Jul 08, 2005 11:45 am
Excellent job, and your Da Vinci reference is absolutely intriguing. This essay has just made me even more excited about HBP.